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Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:25 pm

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This is a box. It is full of air.

All the air within the box is at the same pressure. :yes:

The big question mark means that the person who put the air in the box forgot to measure how much air he put in. :duh:

We need to discover out how much air is in the box, for stocktaking purposes. How can we discover out this most important information (before the *olice capture more elevated with us)? :hscratch:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Melvyn » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:35 pm

The best direction is to weigh the box.

The more air that is within the box, the heavier it will be (to an extent). :yes: :yes:

Then if you divide the weight of the air by 1, that will equal the amount of air in mm. :clap:

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:37 pm

Not necessarily. The air could be at less than, or more than, the standard atmospheric pressure for its location. There could be more air in the box than is recommended, or indeed less air, in which case there would be a vacuum, and anyone stepping within would have his or her knickers sucked off.
I think you should reconsider the matter.

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:18 am

Knickers sucked off? :yikes: :yikes:

The air was pumped in using a foot pump, so the pressure would be the same as it is in the foot pump. :yes:

Will this affect the result? :search:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:14 pm

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The air was pumped in using a foot pump, so the pressure would be the same as it is in the foot pump. :yes:
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No. The pressure would reduce the moment it left the foot pump.

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:05 am

Air expands to fill the space available, but only if there is enough of it. :yes:

There might not have been enough of it to fill the box. :search:

What if the top part is empty? I said the box was full, but now I'm getgoing to wander. :hscratch:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:20 pm

If the top part was empty, then the whole box would be empty. You can't have a vacuum next to a quantity of air.

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:56 pm

I can if I gett*en permission first. :yes: :neener:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:55 pm

:no:

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:33 am

I have asked the policeman for special permission and they said I could spin the box round at very high speed, if special precautions were taken. :yes:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:34 pm

And how would that help?

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:19 pm

The air within the box would gett*en dizzy, and fly out to the sides of the box, creating a vacuum next to a quantity of air. :yes:

This is how bicycle pumps might w**k. :clap:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:32 pm

Nonsense. A vacuum cannot operate next to a quantity of air. And you know that. You are trying to mislead the simple members :wag:

By the direction I have booked two excursions to the International Space Station, staying a few days, and including full board. Is it ok if I put it to forum expenses? It's only just over £40million each. A bargain at half the price. :bounce:

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:00 pm

Runaway wrote:
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Nonsense. A vacuum cannot operate next to a quantity of air. And you know that. You are trying to mislead the simple members :wag:
Not so. :no: A partial vacuum is created at the centre of a centrifuge. We know this because centrifugal pumps w**k in this direction. :neener:
By the direction I have booked two excursions to the International Space Station, staying a few days, and including full board.
Is that the one in Leicester? :vconfused:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:40 pm

Partial perhaps. Very partial. But you're hitting splairs.

It's near Leicester, yes. About 220 miles upwards. But the important question is...will forum funds pay for it? It is after all a fact finding mission.

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:13 pm

There are no Forum funds left. :no:

:thanks:

'Vacuum' always means 'parshull vacuum' because complete vacuums are abhorent. :yes:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:44 pm

It's almost impossible to create a complete vacuum. Scientists have to keep pumps going for weeks to achieve an almost complete vacuum. Mr Gove however was born with one.

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:43 pm

Runaway wrote:
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It's almost impossible to create a complete vacuum. Scientists have to keep pumps going for weeks to achieve an almost complete vacuum.
This was the substance of my argument, which you poo-pooed. :wag:

But not in Space they don't. :wink:

There are no arguments in Space. :no: :clap:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:32 pm

Sir William wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:43 pm
This was the substance of my argument, which you poo-pooed. :wag:
Only because I was able to express it much more eloquently. :wink:

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:52 am

You said I was splitting her's. :wag: :wag:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:24 pm

:o

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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:24 pm

:hscratch:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by anepictree » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:43 am

For dummies here is the answer to the W.C.Chairman's original question.
Multiplying air velocity by the area of a duct allows you to determine the air volume flowing past a point in the duct per unit of time. Volume flow is generally measured in cubic feet per minute (CFM). Air velocity is measured by sensing the pressure that is produced through the movement of the air. So to measure the amount of air in the box, prick a hole in it, then sit on the box having fist attached the hole to an air velocitometre. :oops: I don't expect thanks or compliments from the simpletons on here,
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Sir William » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:00 pm

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I will try this correct suggestion and it will solve all my box-of-air problems. :yes: :yabba: :yabba:

How can the Prizemaster be sufficiently rewarded for his intensive knowledge on this subject? :excited:
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Re: Box of air problem

Post by Runaway » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:51 pm

anepictree wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:43 am
a cash away would suffice
What's a cash away? :hscratch:

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